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[info]adb_jaeger wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 07:52 pm (UTC)
Between this dismal healthcare reform performance, and his total lack of spine on the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" front, I'm kinda wishing the U.S. had parliamentary elections at this point.

It's clear that the Democratic leadership in Congress and the White House are total and complete fuckups.

At this point, I really don't see how Palin could be any worse.

[info]adbjupe wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
- invade Russia
- prayer before work
- mandatory abstinence
[info]jpmassar wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 09:06 pm (UTC)
At this point, I really don't see how Palin could be any worse.

I don't think that word (worse) means what you think it means.

[info]adb_jaeger wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 09:08 pm (UTC)
Seriously......

What's the difference between what we have now (all Democratic Congress and White House), and divided government?

Gridlock? Check.
Back-biting? Check.
Inability to show a spine because you're afraid of the fringies? Check.
[info]jpmassar wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
When the government is divided, you don't expect anything to happen?

Dude, I'm (almost) as pissed as you are. But suggesting that Palin could run Stalag 13 as well as Colonel Klink, let alone keep the US Government and the entire world economy from total implosion, is simply beyond the pale.
[info]adb_jaeger wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
let alone keep the US Government and the entire world economy from total implosion, is simply beyond the pale.

I'm not convinced Obama has kept it from imploding. There's a huge difference between solving a problem, and delaying the inevitable.

What reforms have been passed to keep Wall Street from blowing up? (None).

What restrictions have been placed on the compensation structures that cause blowups? (None).

What changes have been made in the top officials responsible for getting us into this mess? (Other than Paulson leaving.... None).

[info]jpmassar wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2009 05:39 am (UTC)
Well, for all we know, had McCain become President, the Dow would be at 14000 and unemployment at 7%.

But alternative histories and hard, and future histories are even harder.

And completely meaningless. The fact of the matter is that the financial system did not implode, and we did not enter another Great Depression. Might we still? Neither you nor I have the faintest fucking idea. Nor do we have any idea who or what was or will have been most responsible if it does or doesn't in the future.

Nonetheless I am (almost) as appalled as you are at the old boy's network that still inhabits the corridors of financial power at Treasury, The Fed and the White House.

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It's my understanding that Barney Frank is hard at work coming up with financial reform legislation. Will it have any potency whatsoever? I have no idea. Why has it taken a year to get to even this point? I have very little idea.

It does seems like the 535 members of Congress are only capable of doing one thing at a time. And that badly. Our method of producing legislation in this day and age seems hopelessly inadequate to the task.

On the other hand, Republicans are not all completely insane. When you are about to muck with the entire financial system of the United States (and therefore, indirectly, the rest of the world too), or when you are about to muck with the health care system for 300 million people, you probably need to be careful and not be overly hasty. So there must be balance. But the scales are weighed in the wrong direction.

The Senate was designed, more than 200 years ago, to slow things down. The Senate, god bless its soul, has written itself rules that are designed to slow it down even more. It's absolutely amazing that ANYTHING gets passed by the Senate, given its byzantine rules, it's points of order, its filibusters and its holds. And Harry Reid.

If Obama is partly to blame (and I agree that he is), then Reid should be drawn and quartered. For the life of me I can't figure
out how someone who exhibits the leadership abilities of a dead gerbil rose to such power. You'd think that Obama could perhaps
inspire him to action, but it seems he's unreachable.

Still, There is always hope.
[info]rcfox wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)
The Los Angeles Times has been a joke as far as news goes for some time. There's an excellent blog, Patterico's Pontifications, that started a few years ago as just a place for corrections of the Times.

Obama has lost support across the board and that's no surprise. No matter who was elected President in November he or she would have lost support from almost everyone because of the economy.

That said, there have been (and continue to be) quite a few self-inflicted wounds at the Obama Administration. One which is guaranteed to bite Democrats next year is ethics and the vetting of Obama appointees. Van Jones wasn't the first, and he's not going to be the last. (Note: I am not saying that Republican administrations have been in the past few years any better; however, Democrats ran on being 'clean' and it's quite clear they are no better than the GOP in this regard.)
[info]jpmassar wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 09:09 pm (UTC)
Obama has lost support across the board and that's no surprise. No matter who was elected President in November he or she would have lost support from almost everyone because of the economy.

I'm impressed. I honestly would not have expected you to have such an impartial assessment.
[info]rcfox wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 10:12 pm (UTC)
I'm impressed. I honestly would not have expected you to have such an impartial assessment.

I really do try to be honest in my political rants.

Btw, the second paragraph is also, imho, an honest opinion of where the Democrats are. The legacy media isn't covering this routinely, but it's quite clear that the Democrats are practicing a "Culture of Corruption," as Michelle Malkin calls it.

The Democrats figured to lose 10-20 House seats and likely one Senate seat (net) in 2010 assuming no bad economic news and no stupidity (corruption) on their part. We've only had bad economic news, and I don't think the economy will turn (and then, only slowly) until late 2010. Add in the corruption and 2010 figures to be a very bad year to have "Democrat" by your name if you're running for office. I think that each of these factors adds another 10-20 House seats and one Senate seat, so I'm expecting Republicans to gain 30-60 House seats and three Senate seats next year.
[info]jpmassar wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2009 05:43 am (UTC)
So, given your track record, we should be able to confidently conclude that the Democrats will lose about 10 seats max in the
House and pick up a seat in the Senate.

But let's evaluate this a year from now. Prognostications so far out make for amusing arguments, but are of almost no value.
[info]rcfox wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2009 02:18 pm (UTC)
Another point we agree on -- prognostication so far into the future is like using a Ouija Board.
[info]adb_jaeger wrote:
Sep. 8th, 2009 09:09 pm (UTC)
Democrats ran on being 'clean'

Between that, and the 'transparency' (you know, except like when it would be bad, like, you know), the Democrats are really giving new meaning to "go long promises, and short performance".
[info]freelikebeer wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2009 01:47 pm (UTC)
"go long promises, and short performance"
It's a deeply ingrained institutional problem.
[info]adb_jaeger wrote:
Sep. 9th, 2009 01:49 pm (UTC)
Re: "go long promises, and short performance"
Oh, I know that.

But to hear the Obama crowd talking, "it will be different this time".
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